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Re-Scale a Schematic Drawing
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Brownie
2009-07-12 13:31:41 UTC
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Good Morning to All,

We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.

There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with no
borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.

Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on an
8.5x11 inch sheet?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Regards,
Brownie.
Oppie
2009-07-12 14:09:26 UTC
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Post by Brownie
Good Morning to All,
We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.
There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with no
borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.
Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on an
8.5x11 inch sheet?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Regards,
Brownie.
If your issue is just printing the drawing, you can do that in the print
dialog by setting the max number of sheets to 1 (iirc). Set the paper size
to whatever you need. With a page limit of 1, it will shrink the print to
fit on one page. Scale factor is ignored (for all intents and purposes) as
long as it gives at least a full page print.
If you don't need the drawing frame, turn that layer off prior to print and
maximize the drawing in the window. V5.6 allows you to print a window (as
shown on the screen).

Hope that helps - Oppie
Brownie
2009-07-13 13:49:20 UTC
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Post by Oppie
Post by Brownie
Good Morning to All,
We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.
There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with no
borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.
Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on an
8.5x11 inch sheet?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Regards,
Brownie.
If your issue is just printing the drawing, you can do that in the print
dialog by setting the max number of sheets to 1 (iirc). Set the paper size
to whatever you need. With a page limit of 1, it will shrink the print to
fit on one page. Scale factor is ignored (for all intents and purposes) as
long as it gives at least a full page print.
If you don't need the drawing frame, turn that layer off prior to print
and maximize the drawing in the window. V5.6 allows you to print a window
(as shown on the screen).
Hope that helps - Oppie
Thanks Oppie.

I was hopping we could shrink the drawing onto a printable frame, but your
reply gave me another idea: Print to PDF or DXF, manipulate the drawing and
read the result back into Eagle. Clumsy, but useable.

Regards,
Brownie
Oppie
2009-07-13 19:09:42 UTC
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Post by Brownie
I was hopping we could shrink the drawing onto a printable frame, but your
reply gave me another idea: Print to PDF or DXF, manipulate the drawing and
read the result back into Eagle. Clumsy, but useable.
Regards,
Brownie
Just set the 'page limit' in the print dialog to 1.
Set the 'scale factor' in the print dialog arbitrarily large (a larger
number will just ensure that a sheet is filled - I use 5). You should also
add text that 'drawing is not to scale...'

Whatever paper size you print to, it should scale to the sheet size.

Sound right or did I miss something in your intents?

On the topic of PDF prints - I have always used the Free cutepdf
www.cutepdf.com pdf creation tool. For most work it creates very compact and
readable PDF files. I tried it with Eagle outputs and found that Eagle's
included PDF output tool, while making somewhat larger file sizes, gives far
better rendering of objects. Would assume that it has lower compression.
Maurice
2009-07-13 17:23:32 UTC
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Post by Brownie
Good Morning to All,
We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.
There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with no
borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.
Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on an
8.5x11 inch sheet?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Regards,
Brownie.
You can generate an EPS image with the cam processor, then insert it in Word
(Insert-- Picture-- from file), and there (in Word) you can change the size
by draging corners with the mouse. If the picture is larger than the paper
size, Word shrink it automatically to the page borders.

Maurice
Brownie
2009-07-14 12:14:58 UTC
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Post by Brownie
Good Morning to All,
We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.
There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with no
borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.
Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on
an 8.5x11 inch sheet?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Regards,
Brownie.
Thanks to both Maurice and Oppie for the nifty suggestions. Have not tried
the EPS but will. it sounds like it generates a scaleable object from the
print. This will be very handy for generating illustrations for the users
manual. You answered a question that would have been asked in the next few
days. The printed page scaling did the job for the current printout.

We have used the Eagle Print to PDF many times for a previous project. The
Eagle team did a great job on that. KPDF and Adobe read the Eagle PDF
files perfectly under Linux and Win.

My previous thought on re-conversion of a PDF was a hope to read the
Shrunken drawing file back into an Eagle Framed schematic sheet for
presentation to the machine shop that makes our parts.

We would welcome questions from others who may like to try using Eagle as a
mechanical drawing tool.

Regards,
Brownie
Maurice
2009-07-14 17:58:56 UTC
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Post by Brownie
Post by Brownie
Good Morning to All,
We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.
There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with no
borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.
Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on
an 8.5x11 inch sheet?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Regards,
Brownie.
Thanks to both Maurice and Oppie for the nifty suggestions. Have not tried
the EPS but will. it sounds like it generates a scaleable object from the
print. This will be very handy for generating illustrations for the users
manual. You answered a question that would have been asked in the next few
days. The printed page scaling did the job for the current printout.
We have used the Eagle Print to PDF many times for a previous project.
The
Eagle team did a great job on that. KPDF and Adobe read the Eagle PDF
files perfectly under Linux and Win.
My previous thought on re-conversion of a PDF was a hope to read the
Shrunken drawing file back into an Eagle Framed schematic sheet for
presentation to the machine shop that makes our parts.
We would welcome questions from others who may like to try using Eagle as a
mechanical drawing tool.
Regards,
Brownie
Using VeryPDF PDF2Image (www.verypdf.com), you can convert a pdf file to bmp
format (choose image bitcount =1), then in eagle you run the ulp
"import-bmp", you can import back you drawing and you can scale it (change
the unit for one pixel).

Maurice
Brownie
2009-07-16 17:36:16 UTC
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Post by Maurice
Post by Brownie
Post by Brownie
Good Morning to All,
We use Eagle schematic to create mechanical drawings for machined parts.
There are occaisions where we would like to Enlarge or shrink a drawing.
For example, a part was originally drawn to full scale on a sheet with
no borders and is about 12 inches wide by 20 inches tall.
Is there some way that we can shrink the drawing so it can be printed on
an 8.5x11 inch sheet?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Regards,
Brownie.
Thanks to both Maurice and Oppie for the nifty suggestions. Have not tried
the EPS but will. it sounds like it generates a scaleable object from the
print. This will be very handy for generating illustrations for the users
manual. You answered a question that would have been asked in the next few
days. The printed page scaling did the job for the current printout.
We have used the Eagle Print to PDF many times for a previous project.
The
Eagle team did a great job on that. KPDF and Adobe read the Eagle PDF
files perfectly under Linux and Win.
My previous thought on re-conversion of a PDF was a hope to read the
Shrunken drawing file back into an Eagle Framed schematic sheet for
presentation to the machine shop that makes our parts.
We would welcome questions from others who may like to try using Eagle as a
mechanical drawing tool.
Regards,
Brownie
Using VeryPDF PDF2Image (www.verypdf.com), you can convert a pdf file to
bmp format (choose image bitcount =1), then in eagle you run the ulp
"import-bmp", you can import back you drawing and you can scale it (change
the unit for one pixel).
Maurice
Thank you Maurice

Regards,
Brownie

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